help with these two rare coins

[newrivertrans]

the pics are of two coins that my mother had when she died. they are from her grandfather who was in the german military in the 1700's any help would be nice. Thanks pics of both can be seen in coin id fourm

[kanewilliamson]

It seems like that you have some problem with coin identification. According to me if you able to appear the picture of that coins then it would be great. Without picture I can't identify the coins.